Tuesday, May 10, 2011

Doctor's Orders: More Nutella

We recently made a small increase in the Pork Lo Maniac's ADHD medication, so yesterday we went to the pediatrician for a weight check. Despite the fact that she has actually gained a pound since our last visit, her BMI is still too low. (This is even considering that children's BMIs are different from adult BMIs.)

We pretty much have four weeks to jam as much Nutella as possible into this kid, or we're going to have to dial back the Adderall. As it is, any day she doesn't have school, we won't be giving her the meds.  And we are now planning a "medication vacation" for the summer.

Oy vey. 

Seriously, this is not going to be pretty.  The Pork Lo Maniac's behavior without the ADHD medication is, um, unhelpful.

When I realized what the PLM's body mass index was, I was like, "uh... then what about Cookie?" Cookie has always been pretty much a stick figure.  Turns out Cookie, who is not on ADHD meds and seems to eat anything that isn't nailed down, has the exact same BMI as her twin sister. (Go figure.)

So both girls are now eating Nutella on doctor's orders. Given that I've spent the last twenty-odd years trying to get my own BMI lower, it's a little hard to wrap my brain around this. All four of our kids eat a healthy, balanced diet, with a fair share of Doritos thrown in for good measure. I used to think about sneaky ways to jam more fiber and veggies into their diet. Now I'm wondering what's the highest-calorie breakfast I can convince them to eat.

I know that being too skinny sounds a lot better than too heavy, and socially, I'm sure it is.  But health-wise, it is a real problem -- and not just because I'm facing the possibility of reducing, eliminating, or changing the ADHD medication that helps the Pork Lo Maniac so much.  Kids who are underweight can have lower brain function, perform more poorly on tests, have lower immune systems, and become tired more easily.  Children who are underweight also tend to have difficulty concentrating, so clearly, that's not going to help anything here.

Speaking of lower immune systems, as a side bonus, the Pork Lo Maniac's respiratory virus from last week has magically morphed into strep. This is not the first time we've gone to the pediatrician for one thing and then randomly found out something else was wrong. ("Thanks for bringing the baby in for her 12-month well check. Has she been pulling on her ears? Because she has double acute ear infections.")

Of course, about 30 minutes after the strep diagnosis, she developed a fever. It's possible our pediatrician isn't even a medical doctor but is instead one of Dionne Warwick's Psychic Friends.  Or maybe he has some kind of superpower x-ray vision that can see the germs festering inside my kids.  And then right after the fever spiked, the healthy-looking flush in her cheeks bloomed into a scarletina rash. Because strep just isn't strep in our house until it's full-on Scarlet Fever.

Isn't that what Mary Ingalls went blind from? I half expect a shirtless Michael Landon to stroll in and ask for some corn pone and hardtack, whatever the hell those things are.


32 comments:

  1. Had the same problem with our son. In fact, he completely stopped gaining weight (and our doc weighed in ounces). We added Carnation Instant Breakfast everyday day to at least one cup of milk which was a big boost. If she doesn't have a milk allergy that will pack on a couple of hundred calories for every 8 ounces she drinks. We also added ensure with his snack. He's still skinny as can be but at least now he's gaining. The med vacation made a big difference too. I think he gained 4-6 pounds in one summer. Good luck!

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  2. Oh, girl, I feel your pain. I have a six-year-old on Concerta and it RULES. They will pry that stuff out of my cold dead fingers, skinny kid or no skinny kid. Despite the fact that he doesn't eat anything all day usually, his weight is good though... I do supplement him with a protein drink called Orgain. Comes in chocolate and vanilla, and it's made with organic dairy and chockfull of vitamins. If you get them by the case amazon subscribe and save, I think they're about $2.50 apiece but he LOVES them and will drink as many of them as I let him. Maybe you could try that?

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  3. Getting my daughter to eat and gain weight is a constant struggle in my life. She is small as well, not even on the normal growth charts. She does have velo cardio facial syndrome and is in the 10th percentile for those kids. That being said, still not a great thing. Frankly, I don't understand it because gaining weight is totally not my issue.

    Anyway, we make sure to add good fat to our daughter's foods, including a teaspoon or two of safflower oil where practicable (on cardiologist's orders). That helps. We also love nutella, full fat sour cream, and powered milk (such as instant breakfast, but we use the uber expensive neocate junior for my daughter due to dairy and soy intolerance--can't wait for her to outgrow that!) It is a challenge to up the caloric intake when the child won't eat more. We also have strict rules that my daughter is not allowed to have water to drink (or juice) until she finishes her milk. At 30 calories per ounce, that is the best way we get her to gain weight healthily because of course, if she had her way, she'd only drink water (the obvious choice of drink for a child who weighs 24 pounds at age 3). Good luck! If you learn any good tricks to get your girls to gain weight, please share!!!

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  4. As a former skinny girl, I did everything I could to put on weight when I was younger. NOTHING helped. NOTHING! At 5'6", I weighed 93 lbs. when I graduated from high school. I wish I could believe that being underweight was "socially easier," but I was constantly accused of being anorexic and frequently referred to as "bony" by both kids and adults. When a person is even just five or ten pounds underweight, everyone comments and no one seems to think that it is rude or hurtful.

    On the bright side, I never suffered from any of the side effects that you mentioned, and my self-esteem as an adult is great despite all the teasing I endoured as a child.

    Good luck with the Nutella.

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  5. My son has real trouble gaining weight. His sister, who is two years younger than him, outweighs him. I get asked if they are twins all the time; to which I am forced to reply with a pinched look on my face "No. No, they are not." We have used the Carnation Instant Breakfast. It worked for a little while until he realized what we were doing to his chocolate milk. The nutritionist even told us to add a few tsp. of canola oil to his PBJ sandwiches at one point. It didn't work. He could tell there was something different about his his sandwiches. SPD for the win! Lately, we are just trying to let him eat whenever he is hungry instead of keeping that on a schedule of two snacks and three meals a day. He eats almost nonstop now. *fingers crossed* that it works and he starts to gain and grow because he literally looks like a stick figure. I keep wondering when someone is going to call social services on me for malnutrition or something, because to look at him, you would never know how much he is capable of eating. I hope the Nutella works!

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  6. I have a skinny one on Concerta as well.... he is allergic to nuts,egg and dairy products too. Try fattening a kid up on healthy food! You are better than me though, I told his Doc that if he takes away my kids meds, he had better give ME some.

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  7. My daughter when she was a baby never had sore throat symptoms and the only reason I knew she was sick was after the doctor pointed out the "scarlet fever" rash. I had the same thought about Mary Ingells! Hope all gets better. My son had weight issues with his ADHD meds as well and we ended up just letting him eat whatever he wanted at night. Once he hit puberty, he started to gain weight again.

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  8. When my son was 18 months old, he stopped gaining weight. He was sent to a gastroenterologist and had all sorts of tests done, but everything came back fine. He just *can't* gain weight. He's now 6, and weighs 36 pounds - he's probably the lightest kid in his class! - and is in the 3rd percentile for weight for his age. We used http://www.brightbeginnings.com/soy.aspx, http://www.myduocal.com/, and http://www.kidessentials.com/Pages/homepage.aspx. He's still underweight, but he's staying on the curve, so we only have to get him weighed at the GI every 2-3 months.

    We finally learned not to stress about it, and let him what he wants, when he wants (except for too much sugar!). Good luck!

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  9. My kids are also stick figures. And they are 3.5 and 2.5. My son (the younger) is terrible. When just in a diaper he literally looks like he is walking on 2 sticks. No exaggeration. I add instant breakfast to their milk and make super high calorie smoothies (whole yogurt, whole milk, instant breakfast, avocado, peanut butter, etc). I didn't know about Nutella... I'll start adding that to their diet as well.

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  10. We stressed about our middle son's low weight after getting a "lower than normal BMI" warning letter from the school nurse. He eats well and is very active, so he wasn't showing warning signs of problems. More importantly, he has the exact body build (SKINNY) as my husband at that age. My husband parlayed it into a nice wrestling career in the lower weight classes (without hours in the steam room or starvation diets) and assures my son that any problems gaining weight will immediately cure themselves when he reaches age 40. (I can attest to that, as well!)

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  11. I have an average weight, ADHD, picky eatier son on Metadate but my younger one, not on meds, is the underweight tiny one. They like Carnation (chocolate milk to them) but it's full of sugar! Doctors have suggested making sure they have a bedtime snack. That is usually yogurt, cereal and for the littler one AdvantEDGE protein drinks. Thankfully, both the pediatrician and the psychiatrist don't recommend taking a vacation from the meds. They believe it's not fair to the child. I'd love to hear other ideas on fattening these boys up! Sarah

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  12. My sister had the same issue as a kid. Now that she's an adult and has had her own baby, she has the same problem a lot of us do - she can't get the weight off.

    At least you know it's Scarlet Fever. I'd heard of Scarlet Fever, but never had any dealings with it. I took my 5yo to the doctor. They told me he had "strep throat with a rash." They failed to tell me "He has Scarlet Fever." When I called to tell them they need to inform parents properly, they told me they didn't want to freak me out. I was more freaked out they weren't more forthcoming with a diagnosis.

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  13. have you tried milkshakes as a weight gain tool?
    They're fun to eat and fun to make. You can have the girls pick out what they want in theirs.

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  14. I have two girls, ages 3 and 1, that have both been underweight. We converted them to full-fat everything. I gave them carnation instant breakfast like it was water. I added butter to their cooked veggies, cheese to their scrambled eggs. My motto was, "You want another peanut butter cookie? Sure!" It didn't help that the 3 year old was not just picky. She hated eating. Anything. Ever. I made super mega smoothies for her with whole milk, fruit, protein powder, agave nectar, avocado, you name it. Hey, whatever works. Here's hoping you can pump those kids full of sugar and fat. And also, I'm slightly jealous of my kids that have to to TRY to eat more ice cream. Just saying.

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  15. Yuuuum, Nutella....try carnation instant breakfast in the milk. It adds like a zillion claories and has all this other good stuff. Worked like a charm or my low weight son. Add Hershey's syrup to taste.

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  16. My incredibly well-thought-out comment was eaten by Blogspot so the retype with be concise. I have always been very thin, some people aren't built to medical specs, and if the kids aren't showing signs of eating disorders or malnutrition, don't try to "fatten them up."

    And for the record, being thin in school is difficult (I imagine it's akin to being fat, or exhibiting just about any other external difference from other kids) and teachers can be just as cruel as kids, especially when they enlist the "professionals" to pass their judgments. Bottom line - if there isn't an actual issue with PLM or Cookie's weight or eating habits, just continue to reinforce healthy diets.

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  17. We went through the same with our son, once he hit puberty he got downright skeletal. It was scary & we ended up switching him to Straterra. Now he is at a healthy weight for his age & height. He is 17, 5'11 & 185 lbs.

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  18. Suggested recipe: whole wheat hot dog bun, slathered with nutella and instead of a hot dog? A banana. My 7 year old made this one up and it's awesome.

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  19. At first I thought your last sentence read "soft core porn and hardtack" and I was all WHOA - should I be reading this blog? And then I realized what it really said and remembered that I CAN'T SEE STRAIGHT for lack of sleep. :) I still love you.

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  20. Can you add more dairy to their diet? or are they allergic?
    Cheese sticks, yogurt, chocolate milk ect all help with the weight and will of course help build their bones which is the hardest thing hit when dealing with underweight children.
    Good luck

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  21. I'd try full fat everything, and lots of avocados and cheese. Full fat plain yogurt with jam stirred in is awesome. Nutella makes my daughter a little nuts - she's so active afterwards, I doubt she'd get any caloric net gain out of it. I was always a skinny kid, and it turned out I just didn't much like my mum's cooking. Now that I make food with lots of garlic and herbs, I enjoy eating much more.

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  22. My son had the same issue--after being on Adderal for a couple of years it started to kill his appetite. He is now on Concerta and back on a healthy growth curve.

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  23. God bless ya.

    We're preparing for the double-child trip to the pediatrician's office as we speak and I wouldn't be a bit surprised at this point to find out that both my kids were suffering from a combination of Spanish flu, ebola and rubella, whatever that is.

    All I can say is that I'm sure glad they're vaccinated against SOME stuff, because otherwise, I'm sure they'd have all of that too.

    Hang in there ...

    And FYI, I'm a big believer in avocados and cheese as well. My daughter loves chunks of avocado mixed with chunks of banana -- which sounds barf-er-iffic, but it turns out, actually kinda tastes good.

    Thinking of you guys ...

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  24. My littlest was so underweight they were threatening us with a g-tube. He's allergic to milk and eggs, so that was out of the question. He will not eat avocado. So what we did was give him a dairy free formula (like the instant breakfast stuff) and we added oil to everything. Olive oil and walnut oil on lots of his foods. Peanut butter cookies (with flax, hemp and oatmeal too). Bananas with cashew butter. Turns out he LOVES salmon, so I give him that as much as he wants. Hummus is another good one.

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  25. Oh, and I remain convinced that BMI is a load of BS.

    If appetite really is an issue, consider Periactin. It's an antihistamine, but it causes a considerable increase in appetite. I've been giving that to my boys, and it's been great. (The pediatrician recommended it)

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  26. Tips from my 7 years of managing my ADHD son:
    1- I'm with Barb- full fat everything yogurt, cheese, milk, butter and meat.
    2- Late night snacks/second dinner help.
    3- Daytrana patch. You control when it goes on (in case she sleeps late one day) and when it comes off (No HW? Take it off early!). It is not the same stimulant as Adderral, but might be an option for PLM because of the flexibility. It has been super-helpful for us. btw-If you use patch, try Prep H cream for any skin irritation.

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  27. Mmmmmmmm.....nutella! You're making me salivate. I just discovered the delicacy that is pretzels smeared with Nutella. If your girls need a new way to eat the stuff, they might like that.

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  28. I posted a link to this blog on my blog for tomorrow, I hope you don't mind, if you do let me know

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  29. When I had to pack 1600 calories a day in to my just adopted 2 year old daughter (malnourished orphan). My Mom took a butter cookie recipe, added mini chocolate chips and 1 cup of peanut butter. Packed the dough in a standard 13x9 pan. She worked it out that each 1 inch square cookie was 110 calories. Warning they are hugely addicting.

    Then again you can always rent the Movie Supersize Me for weight gaining tips... have them eat as much Micky D's for 1 week... heard you can gain 10 pounds easy that way.

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  30. I second DuoCal. It is the powder of magic weight gain - our almost-four year old has ridiculously severe reflux (did you know that it can cause a child's airway to collapse? We didn't). He was failure-to-thrive for his first two years until we could figure out what in the name-of-all-that-is-holy was going on. The DuoCal was amazing: it is tasteless and disappears into food like mac-n-cheese (great for a kid with texture issues like my son).

    It can be expensive over the long haul, though, so I highly suggest raiding a local GI's sample closet. Take a whole box and run for it.

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  31. This is waaaaay late, but my son is quite thin and hates to eat and loves to run. One of the things I do is stir marscapone into his tomato sauce. I also make him banana and other quick breads and spread them with a layer of marscapone. I also give him ovaltine once a day.

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  32. It must be difficult to think that your child is underweight, no matter that you make sure they get nutritious meals. It is interesting that this is not the first time you've gone to the doctor for one thing, and then something else is wrong as well. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

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