This one's for those of you who are knee-deep in the nightmare known as Potty Training. And for those who have done it and survived.It is not for those of you haven't gotten there yet, because I swear to God you just don't even want to know.
As hard as this is to say, I'm saying it, because I wish more parents would talk about it and then maybe everyone could stop freaking out about potty-training age a little bit. My son is four and a half years old, and he is not potty trained. This is so hard to say, there should be a damn 12-step program for it. My name is Mommy, and my kid is not potty trained. ("Hi, Mommy.")
My three daughters were considered "late to train" at the ripe old age of three and a half. Three and a half is like the Old Maid of potty training. Other moms cluck their tongues and whisper to each other that it's such a shame, that little girl still isn't potty-trained, and now she'll never get into a good university or marry well.
I thought kids potty-trained at age two. For Cookie and the Pork Lo Maniac's second birthday, we got them little potties. They put them on their heads as helmets, they made pretend soup in them with their plastic vegetables, and they put their dollies to sleep in them. They did not pee in them. Those potties sat and gathered dust for a year and a half. By the time the girls were actually ready to potty-train, the original potties were too small for them.
Even then, it took a long time before they were fully potty-trained, and even longer before they were independent in the bathroom. My experience potty-training the Peanut Butter Kid was nearly identical. When Little Dude came along, I was done banging my head against the potty-training wall. I figured I would get a potty, leave it in the corner, and wait until he asked to use it. I also offered the girls each $25 if they would just potty-train their little brother for me. They thought that sounded great, and did their darnedest to get him excited about using the potty, but to no avail.
Every spring, I would think, this is the spring he'll learn to use the potty! It's so much easier in the spring! He can just wear the underwear around the house! I would try to get him excited about it. We picked out underwear at Target: size 2 with Thomas the Train on them. The next spring, it was size 4 underwear with Disney Cars on them. Now we have size 6 underwear with Star Wars characters on them, but he's still in diapers.
Three sizes of underwear that he has never worn for more than an hour at a time.
Preschool was not an option last year, because preschools require children to be potty-trained. Before Little Dude was diagnosed with Asperger and the public school's special education program became available, I was looking at preschools all over our county, trying to find one that would work with us. None would take him. I started to shift my mindset from I've got to get him potty-trained so he can go to preschool to Oh my God, I've got to get him potty-trained before Kindergarten. That has slowly slid into there is a distinct possibility he will not be independent with the toilet in Kindergarten.
He has peed on the potty a grand total of five times, ever. All of them were pretty much coincidental. We've made huge progress, however. He will now sit on the toilet without panicking and crying, so that seems like a big fat WIN. I give credit for that to his special ed. teacher, who helps makes the potty an unavoidable part of the daily routine.
On Saturday night I asked him if he would sit on the potty, and he agreed to. He said he felt like he had to pee, but that he couldn't figure out how to get the pee to come out. Like many children with Asperger Syndrome, he has a motor planning deficit (a form of apraxia). The best way to explain motor planning deficit is this: it's not that he's not coordinated enough to button his shirt, it's that he cannot figure out the steps involved in buttoning a shirt. He needs explicit instruction in many things that other kids just know intuitively.
Apparently, peeing is one of those things. Fortunately, my other kids and my husband are tremendously helpful in trying to help Little Dude figure out the motor planning involved in peeing. Here are just some of the suggestions he was given:- Peeing is the opposite of holding it in.
- How about a juice box?
- Step one: relax. Step two: stop holding it in. Step three: let the pee come out.
- Here, have another juice box.
- Let's make Little Dude laugh so hard that he pees.
- Maybe if we read him a story he'll relax.
- Would you like a glass of water? Some milk? Pink milk? Yes! You can have some pink milk!
- Little Dude, stop wiggling your legs. It's like you're doing the potty dance, but you're on the potty.
- Also? Please, um, stop doing that. Especially when your sisters are in the room.
Little Dude does get a reward if he pees. Tonight's planned reward was a Popsicle. Also, he wanted me to take pictures of him on the potty. I draped a towel over him and complied. Then he said he wanted me to take a picture of his butt. I said no. He persisted, and then I said that if he peed on the potty, I would take a picture of his butt. Let's face it: if it helps him, I am willing to put aside any shred of decorum I may have once clung to.
He sat on that toilet for over an hour. I sat with him the whole time, and various other family members rotated in and out to give support and fabulous advice like just stop holding it in. We read the super mega Lego Star Wars Dictionary. We took (very modest) pictures. Little Dude had a whole bunch of juice. It sounds And wouldn't you know: eventually some pee dribbled out. And the whole house went completely bananas. My parents are even visiting so the celebration was pretty much the equivalent of the Emmy Awards. Seriously, he drank almost 20 ounces of liquid on the potty, and maybe a teaspoon came out, but whatever. He peed. On the potty. And it was spectacular.
Fortunately, he was so excited about peeing in the potty, that he forgot to ask me to take a picture of his butt. He did, however, get his Popsicle, and it appeared to be the most delicious Popsicle in the whole history of artificially-flavored frozen goodness.
It's progress. But I'm not going to go insane and hope that things will magically click for him in the next couple of days. This is going to take time. I do think that eventually he'll get the hang of it. But even if he never does, we'll deal with it.
So there it is. It's not something I'm proud of, and it's not something I'm ashamed of. Like so many things with Little Dude, it is what it is.

Thank you for your honesty about this. You are definitely not alone. I'm sure you've considered it already, but in case you haven't, a visual schedule might help... good resources besides Boardmaker are www.do2learn.com and www.setbc.org (click on picture set). And screw the age ideas! Development often happens in, eh hem, spurts and kids (and moms) should no more feel bad about when they potty train as when they grow an inch.
ReplyDeleteLet yourself off the hook. When the time is right, it will happen. In the meantime, remember the world is a man's urninal and boys like to pee off of the back porch and with dad. Just think outside of the potty and maybe he will be inspired.
ReplyDeleteMy four year old (almost five) twins have severe apraxia of speech. They are really only MOSTLY potty trained. I always wondered if the two were related! Where did you get this jewel?
ReplyDeleteMy buddy got one of those stand up urinals and her son potty trained in 3 days he was so excited to use it.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to say this to support, not to scare you, but my son wasn't potty trained until the end of 2nd grade. He has ADHD/anxiety do/dyspraxia and just never could transition/figure it out/care. I beat myself up over this for a long time--like 6 years! After the potty seat and m&ms and sticker charts weren't working I started making DR appts and put this poor kid through so much dragging him to the urologist and gastroenterologist and the etc-ist, etc-ist...And the thing was it never seemed to bother him, yet Ilived in fear that his classmates were going to discover that he was 7 and wearing goodnites (because obviously diapers are way too small) He wouldn't go to the bathroom when he needed to or even when he was told to-at grouppotty time he would walk in and play in the sink and walk back out. So I arranged for the nurse to call him down 3 times a day to change his pullup and make sure there was a dirty one in the trash. I think the nurse/teachers/everyone thought it was some sort of munchausens thing bc nobody (including me) really got it....and then one day-miraculously-he just said: "I'm done wearing pullups" and that was that. I have no explanation and I still don't understand it, but one day it happened. And it was THE BEST DAY of my life in a VERY long time. Why do we take it that seriously? Because I know he wasn't as concerned about it as I was. Anyway, when Little Dude is ready, he'll get there. But I will tell you to make sure you've got a really good sensory OT, because I'm pretty sure that helped some of the way.
ReplyDeleteOh I was in your shoes until about a month ago! Little girl with mild autism/Asperger's, 4 and a half, twin sister already trained for almost a year ... and she can't start in her new preschool unless she's trained, too. Like you, I knew the issue was that she just DIDN'T KNOW <<>> TO GO. She had to be taught what it felt like when she was all full up, and what muscles to use to let it out. My husband took off a Friday and a Monday and we had a potty boot camp weekend - filled her up with juice and sat her on the little potty in front of the TV. She sat there for 2 1/2 hours drinking until the first drops came out. A month later and she is out of diapers, but she still can't pee on demand, as I like to say. Her teachers know that scheduled potty time means nothing to her! Good luck with your little one ... just know that he WILL get there and that YOU are not alone! :)
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ReplyDeleteMy daughteer refused to potty train until she was 4. My son wanted to go to school when he was two, so I told him he had to be a big boy. The next day he was out of diapers. My daughter on the other hand was content with being a baby for the rest of eternity. She said she wasn't going to go to school. Ummm, wrong! Eventually she got the hang of it! We just graduated from no pull-ups at night because she had been having accidents. She is now 5 and is starting kindergarten tomorrow
ReplyDeleteTwo of my four boys have SID and they both had hard time potty training . Their OT said that sometimes because of the sensory issues they feel like when they pee and poop, it's like a part of themselves is falling off their body. One of their suggestions was to have them basically straddle the potty and sit on it facing the back of the potty and this is how I got one them to go. Also, please check out www.3daypottytraining.com it really does work! !!! It's a long three days but if you follow it to a tee, it works. I used it with 3/4 of the boys and she even talks about kids with autism and other issues in the e-book. Good luck and hang in there! :-)
ReplyDeleteAt times I think we have been completely poisoned by our mothers' generation, all insisting that we were potty trained completely before age 2, claiming that we didn't even need overnight diapers. (At least, this is the case with my own mother and all of my friends' mothers.) To which our pediatrician replied, "Then she was cleaning up after A LOT of accidents." Kudos for being honest about trying to get past the feelings of inadequacy!
ReplyDeleteMy just turned four year old is pee trained but REFUSES to poop in the potty. He asks for a diaper, pants and a shirt, then hides until he is done.
ReplyDeleteWe don't have any kind of "convenient" excuse, like Asperger's or Austism or Apraxia or etc etc etc. We have Stubborn Child Syndrome and I too, feel inadequate as a parent ... like I've failed some sort of mothering contest.
Reading all of these posts actually made me cry! I'm so happy that I'm not alone in this! My four year old son is in his second year of preschool/headstart whatever, and he still isn't totally potty trained. I feel like I'm doing something wrong. I've tried everything to get him to go on the potty. He pees in the potty regularly, and has pooped in the potty before. He was actually totally potty trained for about 2 months. Then it happened...he started pooping himself with no concern at all. He wouldn't even tell me or his teachers he had to go. He said he didn't care if he was poopie. Now he's saying that he just holds it in. I told him he can't do that or it will make him sick. So now he's pooping again and not holding it, which is good, and he tries to take care of it by himself..he will take off his pull-up or underwear and put the poop in the potty then tell me he needs help cleaning up. I guess the fact that he doesn't want to be dirty anymore is a start! After reading on SRMM's blog how similar our guy and little dude are we took him to a psychologist who thinks he's definitely on the Asperger's Autism spectrum. Now we're going to be seeing a psychiatrist for him too. So thank you sooo much SRMM for opening up this world of Asperger's Autism to me. You have no idea how much reading your blog helps me get through my days!!
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for all these great comments! I've read that the *average* age for boys to potty train is 3-1/2. It's weird how so many people think it's going to happen at age 2. I loved the "Once Upon a Pottty" video but my kids just couldn't relate to the BABIES in the video, LOL. I need a video with a bigger kid!
ReplyDeleteThank you thank you thank you for this! I dealt with my mother telling me over and over and over again that it was just my kids pushing me around and I was letting them win because they just didn't want to go. No Mom, not the case...I just don't feel like bonding with my carpet shampooer!
ReplyDeleteWhen a kid is ready, he's ready! It's already a gross, disgusting, frustrating process for all involved! Why make it harder with pushing for something that just isn't there yet?
Hi my name is mommy and my daughter is 4 years and 22 days old and is NOT potty trianed. We have a great little chart that has a time when to use the potty and a place to put a sticker, yes she can tell time but can not use a potty... seriously, kind of funny :) Anyway at preschool she actaully wears underware and either holds it in or uses the potty BUT as soon as we get home game over... she told me at age 4 she would wear underwear all the time, yup that is not happening and it has been 22 days since her 4th birthday. Not like anyone is keep count. We are sticking to the chart and fingers crossed before she goes off to high school she is potty trained :)
ReplyDeleteI have a 10-year-old with PDD-NOS who is still not trained. He is brilliant and is beginning to make friends and is so mildly affected that most people just think he's shy and are shocked at his diagnosis...and he's still not trained. He is on a toileting schedule which he has had for years and years and years. We dealt with the non-compliance with sitting by rewarding for sitting for 15 minutes AND rewarding for going. So no matter what he got a reward and maybe two. This was a great idea shared by a social worker who was recommended as being great to deal with these issues. Hang in there. You are not alone!
ReplyDeleteHave him stand up and go . Use a kids bench so he is tall enough, put cherrios, fruit loops or goldfish crackers in the bowl and tell him to aim...worked for my son.
ReplyDeletePotty training falls into my "Rule of 16" category. I finally figured that even if I did nothing, my children would not be 16 years old and still using a pacifier, or nursing, or sleeping in my bed, etc. Our society puts a lot of expectations on when a child is "too old" for something.
ReplyDeleteAlthough my youngest was perfectly willing to potty-train, but "didn't know how to make it come out." So, I'd bring out the potty once a month or so. Try it when I knew she had a full bladder. When it didn't work, I put it in the closet and didn't mention it until the next month. One day she finally figured it out.
Having said that, my children did not have any form of Autism, so I can't speak to the special challenges many of you are facing. Just wanted to say hang in there, and know that, with time, it will happen.
@Laura -- We tried the standing-up thing. He's actually tall enough that he doesn't need a bench or anything. He freaked out.
ReplyDeleteYou are not alone. Our son is high functioning, not Aspergers high functioning,but autistic none the less; we started at 2 years and just short of his 6th birthday (in November)we are 92% potty trained. It's the lack of body awareness that we have to compete with. The only thing that held his attention with peeing was toilet targets - water soluble targets from Babies R US. Once peeing he'd try to hit the target, that is how we got to peeing in the toilet standing up. Pooping was different, for the most part this is the 8% we are still working on. He is getting better at running and telling us he has to poop (or telling all those around us). Night time he still wears a pull up, by the time he goes to bed his body awareness is almost none existent. Recently, he has started to throw his door open at night and yell to us to take him to the potty.
ReplyDeleteSlowly but surely, we are getting there.
His soon to be 3 year old sister is really dragging out the potty training, I think she just wants the MMs.
I know exactly how you feel! My daughter was not potty trained until she was 5 1/2 years old. I was beginning to think it would never happen!! She has PDD-NOS and selective mutism. It will happen when it happens.
ReplyDeleteBoth of my boys were 4 when it finally happened. Hang in there! We had help from ABA therapists for my older son. Using pictures and a timer to go every 5 minutes was brutal, but it worked. We had a lot of snacks and breastfeeding for the baby in the bathroom for a couple of weeks. lol
ReplyDeleteThe magic moment happened when he started to pee and we ran with him and got some in the potty. It clicked for him after that and got much easier. M&M's were the bribe that worked for us. Actually fake ones from here...http://www.choclat.com/GFCF/gfcf.php
Good luck!! :)
Potty training is my thing that I can get on a soapbox about. I get all irritated and probably start foaming at the mouth. Seriously. I hate it. I worked in daycare for years and years. I watched these poor kids be told they couldn't move to the 3 year old room because they weren't potty trained. They were being held back for not peeing in a toilet! It made me so mad, since I had just learned in those Early Childhood Education classes they made me take that a "normal" child [whoever has one of those] doesn't even understand the signals their body gives them until age 3. Well how in the heck are we supposed to start teaching them if they don't even understand what in the world we're talking about?!
ReplyDeleteMy daughter decided she was ready about 3 months after her 3rd birthday. My little man is going to be 2 soon and I've already told my husband I'm not jumping into potty training the day after and he said "that's your area of expertise" so I know he's not going to argue with me. His sisters might talk behind our backs, but oh well. I'm pretty sure they do that anyway.
Oh, and I can't believe preschool were turning you away. I know he wasn't technically diagnosed at the time, but still. I remember a place I worked at, we had a Kindergartner who wasn't diagnosed, wasn't potty trained, and who still came to our center every day after school. A few months after school started she was finally diagnosed, much to the father's relief.
My oldest is almost 8 years old, and he still has bathroom issues. We're not sure if it's because he's sleeping too soundly at night to realize he has to go, and so wets the bed, or if he doesn't really care.
ReplyDeleteWe had a lot of issues last school year, his second grade teacher was refusing to let him out of class to use the bathroom when he was needing to go, so he was having accidents in class. After the second time of having to take clothes to him at school we started to 1) send a full change with him so if he DID have an accident he didn't need to wait for one of us to get a set together, then hike over to the school (ah the joys of no car, that sudden mile walk to the school), and could immediately change. and 2) We had a talk with the parent/teacher liaison about this (class was still in session, so couldn't talk to the teacher), and she called in the principal, and we discussed it, and they let the teacher know to start letting him out of class.
So far only one accident this school year, and that was waiting at the bus stop for his friend, who missed their bus. Needless to say we're going to be getting him to the doctor soon to make sure it's nothing serious.
He was diagnosed with hydo nephrosis of the left kidney, and we want to make sure he's not having kidney issues again. Though on the upside, we'd have a doctors note to put in his school files stating he's to be let out to the bathroom when he needs to go, no excuses on the teachers part.
Hang in there! Little dude will get it! I'm in the middle of finishing potty training my almost 4 year old, and my 2 1/2 year old (boy #4 was so much easier, watching his brothers going all the time...it's that darn pooping!) it's my daughter that caused the problems. 1 girl + 2 older brothers + 2 younger brothers = cleaning pee off the floor when she thinks SHE can stand and pee at the toilet too.
I am so with you. My autistic daughter was much easier to potty train than my son who does not have a diagnosis ( I suspect he too is on the spectrum he just hasn't been tested yet). Sarah was four and a half my son finally got a month before he turned five and once he got he had it down. I had visions of him getting married in pull-ups.
ReplyDeleteI think anyone who is in a bathroom with a potty-training child needs to relax. Take a deep breath and remember to exhale. Encourage the child to do the same. Nothing is going to happen if anyone is a bundle of nerves. Turn on the water in the sink (nothing like the sound of running water to help with the urination reflex). My eldest seemed to "need" the encouragement of a mystery gift waiting for her to become fully potty-trained. A few weeks after receiving her gift, she wanted to go back to night-time diapers. I said, sure, but then the gift had to go back. She gave me a "look" and never mentioned it again. My middle child was a breeze; she just wanted to be like her older sister. My youngest (with vision, hearing, & processing issues) was taking his sweet time about it, so I bought him 2 large sets of different animal figures and set up many of them in the bathroom. When he wanted to check them out, I told him that he could when he was sitting on the potty/toilet... When he wanted to take them out of the bathroom, I told him that he could have one each time he actually used the toilet. If he used his diaper, I reminded him that he missed a chance to get another animal figure. By the time he earned most of the 90 animal figures, he was fully trained (prior to age 4).
ReplyDeleteRegarding LD wanting a photo of his butt, maybe he's just curious about what the back of his body looks like. I remember my kids saying similar things; I would just take them to a full-length mirror.
Relax, you know he'll get there.
Deb
He WILL get it. I promise. I know a little guy who just turned 5 and he has similar motor planning issues (I call it See-Plan-Do) and he is just now getting the hang of it.
ReplyDeleteNot to freak you out, but you may want to look up encopresis on WebMD. We've been dealing with that for more than a year with Girl Child. Miralax cocktail, anyone?
As a Kinder teacher, I had several kiddos still in diapers. We did a similar award system for using the potty and the school nuse was involved. Its got to be so much harder for little dude. He'll figure it out eventually. Kuddos for not losong your cool and not letting others bully you about it.
ReplyDeleteSRMM: I think you are an amazing mommy! You are an inspiration to me for taking each kid where s/he is. We're raising little individual humans, not textbook cases. You rock, woman!
ReplyDeleteSRMM, thank you for this post. My son (3y8m) is pee trained and has been for months, but your WHOLE ENTIRE POST could have described an evening at my house if you just substitute the word "poop" for "pee." He cannot figure out how to poop on the potty. If one more person gives me the bright original idea of finding a really good prize or reinforcer I am going to shove them into the potty. May the force be with us both...
ReplyDeleteI felt horrible when my daughter wasn't potty trained by 2 1/2, ofcourse my sister didn't help by saying all her kids were. My Emi would NOT use the potty if it was in the bathroom so I just put the potty in her room. Then it was in the hallway by her door and eventually she would just run to the bathroom.
ReplyDeleteGOOD LUCK!!!
Tesa
The ONLY reason my ASD kid got ANY motivation is he had a 6 WEEK diarrhea bug. 6 weeks! I won't go into the absolutely disgusting-ness of it. He was 2 months shy of 5 years old. There was a lot of the motor planning you talked about, and processing fast enough. He didn't care if he was all wet. I still often FIND him all wet. He regressed again recently, and I just want to tell people that question, "YOU try it! NO TRICKS work with an ASD kid. Mine is developmentally delayed and a control freak. He'll figure it out someday when he's motivated to have control over it." And my NT kid was 3 in June, CAN go in the potty and still is not "trained". I have enough on my plate. Potty trained by 2 is overrated. ;)
ReplyDeleteMy son (with pdd-nos) wasn't completely trained until almost 5, when, after showing absolutely no interest (didn't want to, couldn't when he finally tried, etc., etc.), he decided he was ready to do it. Two things - he always had to sit (couldn't stand to watch, at all, definitely had the "losing a part of me I NEED!" fear) and we always had to have the water and/or the fan running. The sound really bothered him.
ReplyDeleteHe'll be 8 in two weeks - and I can't believe it was only 3 years ago that I was wiping that kid's behind. Seems like FOREVER ago.
My daughter was 3 and a half and my son was 4 and a half before they were potty trained. I actually asked for help on a one-day email hotline of pediatricians. The freaking idiot who answered my email said if they're not potty-trained by the age of 4 both parents and child should see a counselor. Sheesh! All it took was me girding my loins (ahem) and just putting them in underwear, and carrying around at least two sets of clean clothes. It took just three days of pooping or peeing in clean clothes instead of pull-ups (which 'wick the moisture away from your child's skin' so they don't know when they're peeing!) to get them trained. I know we don't have your difficulties, but when they're ready they will. Try not to turn it into a control issue or a battle. It will happen!
ReplyDeleteI have no experience with throwing sensory issues into the mix, but I'm the world's worst potty trainer. I just detest everything about it, and eventually manage to get my kids trained (so far) in the 3.5 to 4 range. A mom to over a dozen kids (no multiples) came to speak to my MOPS group once, and she gave the best advice: to stop caring so much about it, lol. She said that back when she was potty training her first kids, she worried so much about it and what others told her and thought about it. "How many of those people do you think I still talk to...EVER? None," she said. "So why should I have cared what they thought?" I literally cried! Best of luck to you, and great job doing everything right!
ReplyDeleteThanks for this post. Our son was 5 and still needed a pull up to poop. He'd hold it all day until he got home - needless to say, we had major constipation issues. Everyone had an opinion: stickers, just sit him until he goes, promise a big toy, put stickers in the water to "bomb"... All in all, the "helpful" suggestions all had the undertone of "he's STILL not trained?"
ReplyDeleteOur son finally said he couldn't understand how to make his body poop while sitting down. It broke my heart when he said, "I don't think I will ever do this. I can't dream it so I can't achieve it." (Hip Hop Harry anyone?) We decided to start "dreaming it". I sat with him on the potty everyday pretending to go.
One day last month, he finally pooped in the potty. We were so proud of him but he was even more proud of himself. He said, "Mommy, you knew I could do it and I did." Sadly, there were many moments that I doubted it along the way.
Hang in there. You are doing a great job for your kids and for the other parents out there who are struggling with these issues.
Thanks for all the support, everyone! It makes me so glad that other stressed-out parents are getting all this good advice, too.
ReplyDeletethere's more than one mom on our allergy website that has dealt w/this (I think one boy was just potty trained at 7 or 8)....they may be helpful - or at least supportive....I think you've tried it all (that I know of) and are doing great!
ReplyDeletehttp://allergy.hyperboards.com/index.php?action=home
Yay!! He peed!! That's great news! It's just the beginning -- I feel it like a tingle in my pants.
ReplyDeleteWe're working on pooing in the toilet over here and I honestly believe by the time my little guy is out of diapers, I'll be ready for them myself ; )
We'll all get there though. Nice work, Lady.
I contend that I am "mostly normal", but yes I have quite a bit of the "A" about me. When I was a kid, I indulged in some faecal-painting. Right artistic it was, if I do say so m'self.
ReplyDeleteMy eldest was 5 when she potty trained. She basically did it at the same time as her 3 year old sister. Now they're almost 9 and almost 7. I still send a change of clothes with the oldest, but the other hasn't had an accident in a long time. Their youngest sister is nearly 4 (next week!) and simply doesn't care - can't be bothered and/or doesn't notice until it's too late. I've cleared it with the preschool teachers for her to still wear pullups (not the only child doing that either), and since she's there in the morning and pretty much only poops in the afternoon, we're doing okay for now.
ReplyDeleteI was able to make another mother feel better over the weekend. She was concerned because her almost 3 year old wasn't out of diapers yet. She felt better than my almost 4 year old wasn't either, and I wasn't freaking out about it.
Way to go, Little Dude!
ReplyDeleteI can't imagine dealing with this. My daughters were trained one month before and one month after their 3rd bdays. Even then I was going NUTS with the accidents that lead up to being trained. I commend you.
I also want to say that I have known parents of children with no developmental delays who were not potty trained at 4 or even close to 5. Boys especially seem to be slower. So I think overall he is doing pretty darn well. (I know that little vote of confidence does not help much, sorry.)
Way to go, Little Dude! Love how you are approaching this.
ReplyDeleteMy son was 4 1/2 before becoming potty trained, and he still wears Goodnights (not even close to being dry in the morning) and occasionally has pee accidents - he'll be 6 next month. The Peter Potty really helped, but more as a sanitary issue, not so much with motivation. He still often needs help with wiping (lord know what goes on when he is at kindergarten.) It seems all my friends had their kids trained by 2 - "oh, I got tired of diapers, so I made them use the potty." What, like I didn't try!
ReplyDeleteIt seems like Little Dude has completed the first (and hardest)step - he wants to do it. Now on to the motor skills to complete it ! Good luck Little Dude!
The official experts at our local Children's Hospital do not considering toileting a medical issue until after 8 years old. For normal children it CAN take up to this long before they are fully toilet trained. No guilt! No embarrassment (for either parent or child)! Especially if there is a reason they might have additional difficulty with toileting. And the "best" time of the year (according to most pediatricians) to toilet train your child is spring/summer when you can let them run around OUTSIDE with little or no clothing on. Let me tell you... they figure out really quickly what their bodies are doing when it runs (or slides) down their legs! And then you hose them off.
ReplyDeleteI had never heard of the Peter Potty -- I had three girls first so that was never an issue!
ReplyDeleteI was right where you are just two short years ago. My son Alex, who has Aspergers, was 5 before he was potty trained. I was lucky I found a preschool for Alex at 3 and 4 years of age that would allow a Huggies pull-up in his backpack--he was dextrous enough to put the darned thing on himself, then went into the bathroom to poop! The teacher helped wipe him; to this day Alex has alot of trouble wiping until he's clean. He will still call me or his dad in to help him out when he's finished at home. I can't tell you if there was any one thing that finally made Alex decide it was time to give up the Huggies; all I know is I quit mentioning anything about it and one day noticed that the pull-up was staying right there in the backpack! I think maybe in Alex's case, we just needed to let him do it when HE was ready. He managed to start Kindergarten with only a change of underwear in his backpack, just in case, then never needed it. There is hope! If my little Aspie can do it, your son can too! We're on their timetable, aren't we?
ReplyDeleteMy kiddo is 6. And in kindergarten. And utterly refusing to go on the pot -- though she is learning to count to 20 because that's how long she absolutely must sit for at each attempt...
ReplyDeleteThe one additional trick that I don't think I've heard mentioned here is the tactic of squirting a bottle of warm water at the appropriate genitalia while kiddo is on the pot. It has the appeal of the right "feel" plus the tinkling noise. Didn't work for us, but I hear it does for some. (We couldn't do the water running in the sink thing, because she wants to get up and play in the water).
Congratulations on that teaspoon of pee, by the way. Progress is progress!
look at it this way - at least he's not having accidents all over the place. we had our son run around with no pants or diapers until he figured out the potty thing... all i can say is it's a good thing we have hardwood floors.
ReplyDeleteYou are not alone!! My little guy (PDD-NOS) was just 2 months shy of 5 before he started peeing in the potty, and 4 months later is still having pee accidents regularly (daily) and has just started to poop in the potty in the last couple weeks. He had ZERO interest in even trying to use the potty until his dad showed him that he could make the water/pee go in circles in the toilet when he stood up and peed...for once one of his obsessions worked in our favor!! LOL And I think a lot of the problem is that with his sensory/planning issues, he just had trouble figuring it all out.
ReplyDeleteoh my gosh so many posts so i'll be quick. 5 year old with SID, can't feel when she pees - has to look in the seat. ruined all of her muscles holding and being constipated so went to biofeedback doctor specializing in this and BLOWING BALLOONS and PINWHEELS really really helped - you automatically tighten yr tummy and open yr bottom... (plus they are fun for kids to do on the potty) - she had NO idea how to push out anything.. now she's much better... also we reward the actual sitting and pushing vs pee or poop b/c she was getting all anxious about output so she now sits 3 times a day post meals and we focus on relaxing and pushing... don't know if any of this will help hope so.. xo
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