But that's not the topic for today. The topic for today is that my little girls are turning into "tweens." In doing some
The tween thing is creeping up on me in some strange and insidious ways. The Pork Lo Maniac, who always been the least girly of my girls, suddenly started brushing her hair. In front of a mirror. This was completely unheard of behavior up until a couple months ago.
Last month, their Judy Blume binge culminated in both of them reading Are You There God? It's Me Margaret. (Good news: that classic has been updated to feature adhesive sanitary pads instead of the belted numbers they wore in 1970.) I was on the fence about letting them read this book because I don't want my nine-year-olds to feel like they must, they must, they must increase their bust. I decided to allow it because, well, it's just a really good book.
Besides, Cookie and the Pork Lo Maniac were already hip to the whole menstruation information scene. About a year ago they noticed that High School Musical actor Corbin Bleu has armpit hair, and that sparked a Major Talk.
Because I spend so much of my time being serially pregnant, Cookie and the Pork Lo Maniac knew from a very early age that women have a uterus; I never wanted to say there was a baby in my tummy, as if I had eaten a baby. They knew that women have ovaries, that make tiny little eggs. And the eggs can turn into babies, just like chicken eggs can turn into chickens. Assuming you don't eat them. (See, that's why you have to explain about the uterus.)
You know how all "the experts" tell you to just answer the questions kids ask? And not go into more detail? Because kids ask when they're ready? Sometimes the experts are
My children clearly believed that mommies are so all-powerful, that they can just decide to hatch that egg, and have a baby. I can see how they could come to this conclusion. I decide what to make for dinner, and I make it. I decide where we're going today, and we go there. I decide that The Doodlebops are too annoying for words, and we no longer watch it. I am Mommy, hear me roar.So, by the time Cookie and the Pork Lo Maniac were eight years old, and asking about Corbin Bleu's armpit hair, and interested in talking about breasts and menstruation, it was time for me to tell them about the sperm part of things. They were fascinated, but not horrified, so hopefully I did an okay job of explaining things.
Here is what they asked me about it: "When do you do that? Secretly? While we're sleeping?"
I picked my jaw up off the floor and replied, as straight-faced as I could, "Yes. Secretly. While you're sleeping." And they never asked to sleep in our bed again. What a happy little story! I should have told them about this years ago. Like when they were 18 months old, maybe.
Ah, but then they would have grown up too fast. As it is, everything about our society pushes girls into growing up before they should. They're nine! They should be playing outside and riding bikes and being goofballs. But also, they are nine. Which means things will change. And I want them to be prepared and confident, not mystified and disgusted.
So, they do those things: they play outside, ride bikes, and act like goofballs. And then they brush their hair. In front of a mirror.


I am mommy, hear me Roar! You are my hero.
ReplyDeleteMy 1st starts kindergarten in 17 days and I'm so emotional about it. I can't imagine what I will do when she comes home talking about some guys pit hair. LOL! Thanks so much for your blog!!
ReplyDeleteMy daughter chose "her conversation" right after a tampon commercial on tv one fine sunday afternoon. It started with "I'm going to use those when I grow up."
ReplyDeleteAfter I wiped my face as I snorted the pepsi out my nose when I heard it I bravely asked her if she knew what they were. She was 8 yrs old at the time. I really didn't expect an answer but I though I needed to answer her the way my Mother never did (I got a pamphlet about it and was told if I had any questions I should call my Aunt, who was a nurse, for the answers) she said no, she didn't know what they were - and looked up at me with an innocent face.
That was 8. Now she's 10, has had her first crush and I answer far too many questions for my sanity to take but at least she comes to me with questions right now.
Why do they have to grow up? How bad is 16 going to be? No wait, don't answer that.. I just can't take it.
M
This is ace! My girl is nine in December and we haven't talked at all ... she hasn't asked and I haven't volunteered.
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to tell you that every time I read "Pork Lo Maniac" I smile. I love it.
ReplyDeleteOur neighbor's 16 year old son cuts our grass -- when he takes off his shirt, it causes quite a stir among the youngsters, who sit across the street watching him, and marvel at the armpit hair. These kids (girls and boys) are ages 5-9, and they are FASCINATED by the pit hair! My son and daughter (7 1/2) asked me about it, but so far the conversation hasn't gone further than that, although I'm sure more questions are around the corner. Hope I'm ready.
ReplyDeleteThe part about them never sleeping in your bed again is hilarious!!! I am a single mom and my kids know that I can't have more babies (tubes tied) so when we discuss this they will assume that the secret goings on will never go on again.
ReplyDeleteAs it stands my girls are 5 and almost 8. I have been asked how babies get in a mommy's belly, but the phone rang so I didn't have to answer that one. And recently was asked when a girl becomes a woman, but it was bedtime and they didn't remember to ask again when they got up.
I don't know how I will deal with both wanting to know when one is so much younger. I know that the older will tell her sister anyway.
As much as I want to be a cool mom who answers all the questions I have decided that I will only tell them how babies are made after they stop believing in Santa. Otherwise it just seems creepy to me.
When I was 9 and saw the paper-wrapped tampons on the window ledge in the bathroom, I promptly went to school and told everyone that my mother smoked cigars in the bathroom. The details made it back to my father, who taught at the school. Needless to say, we had the talk then.....
ReplyDeleteMy 8 year old has a 13 year old sister so she's all kinds of informed. She does sometimes get things a little mixed up though. She knows that mommies have eggs that are fertilized by boy "seed." The process, however, in her mind is somewhere in between a bird and a human. She explained to me one day that the mommy hatched an egg in her body and the boy put his seed in a cup and the mom squirted the seed inside her to fertilize the egg (this part I take responsibility for since the only conception she's ever been acutely aware of was done in this manner and not the mommy-daddy-secretly-in-bed way). Once the egg is fertilized the baby grows inside in egg in the mommy's body until it's ready to hatch. When it hatches that's the water breaking. Then the baby is born. It all makes perfect sense in 8 year old logic. I also like that there's no S-E-X involved. That talk will come at a later date. Apparently 13 as I'm finding out . . .
ReplyDeleteYou HAVE made me laugh out loud, and you WILL get my vote!
ReplyDeleteYou might like a story I'm posting online at www.afacebookstory-oneclickaway.blogspot.com. It's a fictional take on the wife-mommy life we live, about a woman who veers down a path we can't and don't. It's fun and a little dangerous... very much a "What If" read. I hope you will take a peek.
I will be back to take a peek on you and yours. Thanks for the chuckle!
Elizabeth
My daughter is 7 and we've had part of this conversation.. The how to make a baby part. So far, she thinks she's going to have to do this twice. As she wants three children and two will be twins..
ReplyDeleteThe fun conversation will come when she realizes that people actually do it because they want too. Now that you've added getting them out of your bed, I'm considering telling her before she asks ;).
Suddenly, last weekend, my Girl Child decided she wanted to wear makeup. She's 8. I get it.
ReplyDeleteAnd sperm has yet to make the scene in her vernacular. *shudder*
And the Doodlebops creep me out completely. What's with the giant foam hands?
@Goddess Lauri -- my younger daughter (the Peanut Butter Kid) was kind of along for the ride on the Major Talk. She kind of tuned in and out of the conversation. Also, I got the older girls the American Girl book "The Care and Keeping of You" and although the book is not "off-limits" to her, she's not that interested in it yet.
ReplyDeleteOne of my almost 8 year olds told me just yesterday that she's "getting a chest" and then proceeded to walk topless around the house for the better part of the afternoon waiting, she said, for them to "pop out like mommys."
ReplyDeleteWhen it didn't happen she put her shirt back on and said she'd try again next year.
Thanks for your always LOL funny blog!!
Tracy R.
Hilarious! I love your posts.
ReplyDeleteMy 5 year old said to me recently, "If two girls get married they will have LOTS of babies." Yeah, the most loaded of all statements. Do you go for the legal issues of gay marriage or the physical issues of pregnancy? Or do you smile and say, "Yeah wouldn't that be fun?" I did a combo of the first two, although my first out-of-the-mouth reaction was the third. But that was much easier after the, "What is humping?" question boldly asked to me by my older son when he was 7. My response to that was a simple, "Uh...camels have humps *cough* (subject change)." The guilt I felt about completely blowing him off prepared me for future questions when I decided a simple, yet honest answer was the best policy.
-M
So I'm with you on giving them all the info, but what do you do when your 8-year-old asks how babies get inside the moms, then shudders at a certain point in your explanation and says, "That's enough, Mom, I don't want to know any more" - lol. I was relieved. I'd done my part, made the attempt. She knows there is more info to be had when she is ready to ask for it. Maybe I will tell her to email you for it - you have quite the way with words!! :)
ReplyDelete@Shari and anyone else with girls -- We love, love, love the American Girl book "The Care and Keeping of You." It covers everything from periods to shaving your pits, but it gives all the stuff equal weight, so it's not one big "Your Scary Period" book. We also have "The Care and Keeping of Your Emotions." Both terrific books.
ReplyDeleteDid you know that you can't actually buy the old-fashioned "sanitary napkins" any more? Did you know they were invented by a US Army nurse during the First World War, who noticed that battle dressings were just the thing, for absorbency and all, and imitated them to found Kotex?
ReplyDeleteOr that those of us who might need a battle dressing but can't get one have always counted on sanitary napkins as field expedients? Miss Roberta X of twowheeledmadwoman.blogspot.com does assure me that you can still get the old-fashioned kind among the maternity supplies if you need some to take to the range, or on the motorcycle in the first-aid kit.
Oh, and when it comes to stopping up bullet holes, sojers agree that OB is the only kind of tampon to use, as they only expand sideways, not lengthwise.
Oh my goodness - I JUST had the talk with my kids on Friday! I just posted about it on my blog! I can so relate to your post - and I cracked up when I read about your kids never wanting to sleep in your bed again. Too funny!
ReplyDeleteHere is how my "talk" went..
http://threejems.blogspot.com/2010/08/had-talk-with-my-kids-today.html
I don't update my blog very often - I use Facebook for that kind of stuff now. But I love having these kind of posts on my blog so I will always remember things like this. :))
Thanks, SRMM!! I think someone has actually recommended those books to me before, too. I am going to have to find them for her.
ReplyDeletehad to laugh at some of this . My nearly 11 yr old has always been interested in biology (plants , animals ..whatever) and i went by the method of only telling as much info as needed and they will ask more when they are ready. Well at about 4 ..she kept asking ! "but then how does the baby get inside mummy's tummy?" on to "how does the seed get in there" Argghh. Just recently her body has started to change shape (sigh.) and she was complaining of cramps. As my husband is home more than me we were worried she may start menstruating for the first time while i am at work. decided i should leave some suitable pads at home and recheck on the periods talk. (save him having to deal with too much).So while he was nearby i spoke to her (hey, he needs to know what info and words i was using , in case i am not home and he needs to help her) . Poor Dad .lol. he said , "no! i did not need to hear that much info". So i ended the talk with , "and then Dad will hand you the phone to call me, Nanna or our friends younger sister who is 14 to answer any other questions.until i get home from work". I have heard from friends that only had Dad at home on the fateful day , and some Dads were at a loss (one single Dad told his DD to stay on the toilet while he rang a female friend for help, his DD was 13..surely he expected this one day ?) . So i want to make sure both were prepared . thankfully my young Ms has such a scientific mind she can handle the biological facts at this point. Diagnosed as mild aspergers (i don't know what this means either, but adult friend with aspegers assure me she can join in their D&D games and computer gaming clubs already and they have no problems conversing with her) i am not sure how we will handle the new round of interpersonal questions as they come up.
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